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Mailing List Instructions - A Must Read!

Our lists are unmoderated, but posting is restricted to members. That helps trap SPAM. Do not send SPAM to the list. Non-member posts are held for list manager approval (that's me, Robin Rowe). If appropriate I will probably put it through even when it is a non-member posting.

Mailing Lists

The mailing list is called gtk1-win-developers. The purpose is to discuss the development of GTK1 for Windows. There is no users list at this time. Non-developers may post to the developers list.

Do not send "test" messages to the list. If you are having technical difficulties email the list manager.


Diversity of opinion is good, but we want a civil list where everyone is treated with respect and courtesy. Those who can't state their opinions positively, or are unable to respectfully disagree with the opinions of others, will be removed. Do not make accusations. Do not call people names. Do not try to tell people what to do. Do not use fighting words such as stupid, dumb, idiot, wrong, and so forth. That is not ok even if the person you are calling stupid is yourself. No swear words or obscenities.

If nobody responds it may be no one knew the answer to your question, or that your question seemed confusing. Restating a question more succinctly sometimes draws a better response. If you receive a short or incomplete answer don't feel affronted. Do not presume you know what others are thinking or what their motives are. If you are feeling neglected or insulted do not share your annoyance with the list. Send a private note to me off-list so I can sort out the problem.

Note that you need not apologize for asking a simple question. We're all confused at times.

No Evangelism

We support many operating systems including *nix, Mac, and Windows. Don't evangelize or state a chauvinistic opinion regarding what software others should use. Just because the project is open source don't assume others share your political views. We are not a forum for promoting Linux or espousing free software advocacy. Do not refer to any operating systems, or anything else, by derogatory names. Do not say Windoze.

Size Matters

Small attachments (about 50kb) can be posted to the list, but files typically should be (also or instead) submitted to Patches. Note that Patches isn't just patches. Any type of file that needs to get in queue to move into a release should go to Patches, for example, new brushes. Posting screenshots to the list is good, but they need to be lossy jpeg or gif in order to be under the size limit. If you want to make available a larger image put that on your Web page and give a URL, or ask me off-list to do so for you. If your attachment is too big your message will be held automatically for list manager approval. Size restrictions prevent overloading list subscribers who access via dial-up.

Do Not Cross-Post

Please do not cross-post to lists. They are focused on GTK2.

Plain Text

Take care not to post HTML-formatted email. By default Outlook Express and Mozilla will duplicate each outgoing message in both plain text and HTML format. This consumes unnecessary bandwidth and annoys many users who dislike this "feature" because it displays useless gibberish in their email reader. Spammers seem to like this feature best because it lets them embed pictures and even viruses in email messages. Consequently, we trap HTML mail as suspected spam. Unfortunately, many products have this "feature" on by default. You must turn it off yourself.

In Outlook Express go to {Tools}{Options} and set outgoing mail to {Plain Text}.


Robin Rowe
Project and Lists Manager

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Created November 14, 2003; updated November 14, 2003